Hello Bob,

Well I checked and Schoberl is a common German name. So it would make sense that immigration would have changed the name or that Seberle is the Serbia/Hungarian version of the name in the Banat region.

The name you should pronaunce like "Shubberle" (English spelling).

Now there are now two open ways for you. You will need to write to the archives in Mitrovica and to the German community. Have no fear, the letter templates are coming soon, and I can help you with the German letters.

Yes, most likely the families knew of each other before migration. This is the case in 9 of the 10 cases.

So much from me for now. I will let you know when we put the templates online. It wouldnt hurt if you use PAF to register the above info for future reference. It will be then easier for me to access in light of the coming site updates

Hello Sergej,

Thanks for the reply. Since the above immigration interpretations were made, I found information from the 1920 Census of Detroit, Michigan, USA that showed:
Thomas Gorgas (Gorzas) – head, age 44, married, immigrated 1907.
Kate -- wife, age 40, married, immigrated 1907.
John – son, age 22, single, immigrated 1907.
Ida Crostec (Krastak) – niece, age 33, widowed, immigrated 1910.
(Note: Ida Krastak was a cousin to Barbara Walter, my grandfather's half-sister.)

This information strengthens my interpretations of the immigration records because since Thomas and Katica (Kate) were recorded in the 1920 Census as husband and wife after their immigration, Katica’s immigration listing of Anton Schoberl as her husband is questionable. I suspect that she listed her brother, Anton Schoberl, as her husband rather than Anton Seberle because she knew Anton only by the surname Schoberl and also to show an indication of marriage since her immigration surname was Schoberl.

Sergej, your statement about using PAF to register the previous post for future reference and to make it easier for you to acess it is confusing to me. Could you elaborate on it since I am not familiar with what you mean.

Bob

PAF=Personal Ancestor File. Its a piece of shareware/freeware provided by the LDS church. You can go to this URL and download it for free: http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&categoryId=7000000&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=100069&level=2&bcname=Software%20Downloads%20-%20Free&top=Y&resetCat=N&replBC=subcatlist100069

Its the first one on the list. When you install it choose for the non-LDS version. You can now input all the data you have and then send those files to me so I can load them in mine. Its easier talking for me then because I have several people that ask me questions about their data. This makes it more organized. Its also for you, you keep your records digital for future reference.

I am checking on some things, will be back with you shortly.

Didnt forget, we are working on the migration to our new server. Template is coming, you will receive an email on this. It seems the Vojvodina archives are going on microfilm this year so things are looking good for you

Hi Sergej,

How can the Vojvodina archives be of use in my research?

Where are the archives located? If it's a town/city name, I tried to locate Vojvodina on the map of Serbia but couldn't find it.

Bob

Hi Bob,

Sorry for the late reply. We moved the site to a new server. And this and last week the riots in Kosovo started so we are kind of engaged in monitoring the situation there. They have already destroyed more then 30 churches and monasteries.

Vojvodina is the northern Province of Serbia, meaning the head starting at the Danube untill the border of Hungaria.

I will get back to your post asap when things cool down a bit here.

Bob,

We are having conversations now with several candidates that will do research for us. I will keep you all posted when we hire someone.

We posted a letter template that you can use to inquire yourself. You can download it here: http://www.rodoslovlje.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

Please try to do one ancestor at a time.

I downloaded the letter template and it works fine. What do I do with it now since I don't have anybody to send it to. Any suggestions? I guess I could send it to the archives in Sremska Mitrovica if I had their address.

I also downloaded the LDS church PAF and entered only my ancestors and my family members and notes concerning them. I didn't have much trouble excepting for learning the program because I did have the ancestry tree assembled through use of Family Tree Maker. When do you want it?

Bob

Address is:

Pinkijeva 4
22000 Sremska Mitrovica

Try to attach your PAF file unto the forum.

Bob,

I am talking to one of the coordinators of the LDS database in Salt Lake. It appears they also have a certain amount of information about Vojvodina. I will check if I can find some data for you. If so, then you might request the data on microfilm at home.

Bob, could you check this link and see if there is anything you can use in that database?

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Sergej, I clicked on the site, then on the surname search but didn't find anything on the family names. But on the place search for Mitrovica I got Serbia, Sremska Mitrovica and clicked on that I got Serbia, Sremska Mitrovica -- church records and clicked on that and got:

Topic Serbia, Sremska Mitrovica - Church records
References (Parallel SH) Србија, Сремска Митровиöа - Öрквени списи
Titles Матиžна кнјига, 1881-1944 Евангеличка öрква. Øупа Сремска Митровиöа

Further clicking got:

Notes Микрорепродукöија текста који се налази у писмохрани (Evangelisches Landeskirchenarchiv Stuttgart).
Parish records of baptisms, marriages, deaths and confirmations for Mitrovicz, Slavonian, Austria, also known as Syrmisch-Matrowitz, Slavonien, Austria. Also called Mitrovica, Szerém, Hungary. Now Sremska Mitrovica, Serbia.

Clicking on the View film Notes resulted in:

Note & film location
Rodeni 1892-1912 -- Vjenčani 1893-1911 -- Umrli 1891-1905 FHL INTL Film
2271185 Item 3
Rodeni 1912-1944 -- Vjenćani 1912-1944 -- Umrli 1905-1944 FHL INTL Film
2271186 Item 1

Does this mean that there are microfilms available from LDS with the parish records? If so, if I get them, what do I do for translations?

Also......check your private message inbox. Message from me.

Thanks.......Bob

Use this link to locate the nearest center: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp?PAGE=library_fhc_find.asp

As for translations, we can do them. If it is a small amount we dont charge anything. Otherwise we charge 5 bucks per page.

Good luck,