Dear Sergej,
Thank you for your help.
Please, can you tell me what places nowadays belong to that ancient county near Belgrade?

Most likely none besides Belgrade itself and its suburbs. You wont find any online information about this and you should contact the archives in Belgrade and Budapest for further research. It involves a short timespan and you should need some sources from where you can indicate that it really involves this piece. With no references to any primary sources the chances are slim.

Ok, thank you. I had already written to the Archives in Belgrade and in Budapest some months ago, but noone seems to know about this county. It's strange that there are no sources about that, however thank you for the help

I did a quick search on the internet and the only reference I can find about this so-called county is on Wikipedia. The article was just created and is misleading because there are no sources mentioned. The sources that are mentioned cannot be verified. In many cases it lists the family name but no genealogy, no coat of arms and hereditary information. The sites that mention information are all hosted on non-verifiable free hosting locations with no mentioning of sources. Somehow the information is being spread that this location you are searching is this particular one.

So I do not know if you have any primary source on the grant of count that was given, otherwise I hate to say it doesn't seem to be real. I even checked some local maps from the 1700's, not mentioning of this place or country in any language that comes even remotely close.

The only reliable reference I can find about this family is at: http://www.iagiforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11422&start=0 but again no sources. Perhaps that user can provide you with information, but without any primary sources, grants where it mentions this places I cannot help you.

Brodarevo was never under Hungarian rule and its close to the border of Montenegro. Brokles appears to be a county and not a place in the vicinity of Belgrade.

I'm a member of the forum whose link you posted, and the source was a book about the Costantinian Order, but I don't remember the name. Anyway, I show you the page of the diploma that mentions this county: / Brokles is written in capital letters, as you can notice. A copy of this diploma is also kept in the State Archive in Milan, and another copy is kept in the Libri Regii of the Kingdom Of Hungary, Volume 28, if I remember well (The libri regii can be read also on the website of the Hungarian State Archives). These are the only primary sources that mention that place. There is much literature in italian language about the family and the county (in italian they prefer the spelling "Brochles" instead of "Brokles"), for example in F.CALVI, Famiglie Notabili Milanesi, 1875 ("Notable Milanese Families"). There is another source on the web, an italian book about italian noble families written by Guasco. As you can notice, if you search Brivio family, it will show you "C. di Brioches (Ungheria)" that means "C.(ounts) of Brioches (it is an error in the transcription, I think, because the name is Brochles/Brokles), Hungary" http://www.addware.eu/guasco/elenco_famiglie_guasco.php?Famiglia=brivio&find_record_submit=Cerca

Still, another italian family (with irish origins) was related to Brivio (Countess Anna Brivio married David Griffith) and the Griffiths changed their surname in "Griffith Brokles".

Well,there isn't much information to work with besides this one page of a diploma. I checked with some historical maps from that era but there is no such place in the Belgrade region. The historical context is important and at the moment there isn't much to work with. E.g. I do not know why the title was granted, for what services etc. The inconsistency with regard to the place names also doesn't add up. It would be interesting to see what source that book used about the Constantinian Order.

Eitherway, if a primary source has no reference it becomes difficult. E.g. with coat of arms Rietstap mentions a lot of arms but no sources. So you are left with an array of possibilities varying from misspelling to human error, or even lost historical information.

The best thing would be to hire a researcher and search through the archives in Budapest and Vienna.

The only place/county called Brokles can be found in this italian geographical book of that period http://books.google.it/books?id=lt5BAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA299&dq=brochles&hl=it&ei=XcPKTeCwBIXVsgbr7KyWAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=brochles&f=false (page 299, it is written Brochles, in the italian way) and in this map http://www.sanderusmaps.com/detail-getimage.cfm?c=5537, in the Serbian part, just behind the "s" of the writing Sangiacat. It's called Brokles, but I think it is the Brokles-Brodarevo, and not the county near Belgrade. It could be that the Emperor of Austria, hoping that the whole Serbia would fall under Austria's control after the war against the Turks, started to give titles without having the lands. As a matter of fact, there are no other documents that talk about Brokles in our family archives.

Another hypothesis is that Brokles was an alternative name for Grocka, in the suburbs of Belgrade. They sound a bit similar, but I have found no document talking about that.

You can't use that map for research in the 1700's. The map was drawn in the 1700's but it depicts the region at the time of the Ragusian republic --> Medieval times. The same is with the geographical descriptions, the book is from 1700 but the descriptions are not.

At that time Grocka didn't exist.

I come back in this topic just because I was on holiday in Serbia and Crna Gora and I made some little discoveries.

Here's the photo I took of a map exhibited in the library of the citadel of Budva, in Montenegro. / At the right of town Vischegrad (I think nowadays Visegrad) there is a town called Braka.

Here's another map (dated 1683 if I don't remember well) with the place Brokles, almost at the same location of the other map I showed some months ago. / It seems to be southward of Zenobis/Zenobichz.

Ok, it's not very much, but what do you think about those maps? Could you please tell me what locations nowadays may fit with this place? Could it be near mounts Zlatibor?

I've already wrote to the National Archives in Budapest and Belgrade, but noone answers. If this place was not quoted in a geography book and some maps like these, I would think that the predicate was a fantasy one (In Italy we have examples of this: General Diaz was created Duca della Vittoria, which means Duke of Victory, an abstract concept, and Ceconi family were Counts of Montececon, a place that doesn't exist).

Hvala
M.