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Zarevac
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Ok, Ill leave the docs to Sergej.

 
Posted : 05/04/2017 6:32 pm
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HI,

I just saw the email and I think it will be better by page sent via email.

Sorry of all of the upload tries. I was trying to compress them as much as I could.

I appreciate all of your help!

Thanks!
Jenn

 
Posted : 05/04/2017 6:34 pm
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Nah, I think we have them all right now. Sergej can ask you to mail otherwise, I think he has enough material to read now 😉

 
Posted : 05/04/2017 6:36 pm
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Just reposting my previous post:

OK, I will look at the files. One thing I can tell you that the surname should be spelled as: Djuriš or Đuriš(which is the same). So in English that would be pronounced phonetically as ” jurish”.
I’ll let you know more when I have time to look at the other documents. Glad to see uploading things to the forums are active again.

I saw the email as well. I'll get back to you later. Most likely this weekend.

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 05/04/2017 6:43 pm
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You guys are incredible. Thank you so much.

 
Posted : 05/04/2017 6:49 pm
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Hello again,

I had a surprise in the mail from Mara Meleg's daughter- a copy of her passport and what appears to be birth certificate information. I was surprised to see that her mother listed is Mara Djuris, not Elizabeth, as I suspected. It also perplexed me as I was always told that my great-grandparents Struharik raised her, not the Djuris'. The only Mara Djuris I know of is my great grandmother, who was married... Something odd here.

Thought you might be interested as I think the birth certificate information was sent to her in 1979.

Take care,
Jennifer

 
Posted : 10/04/2017 11:17 pm
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Ok so the form you mailed us is an official excerpt from the municipality in Backa Palanka. This helps a lot.

The name of the place is Čelarevo.

Her birth name is Marija Meleg, date of birth is 24-06-1913
Her father is Andrija Meleg
Her mother is Marija Djuriš

The surname Meleg is Rutherian and is still used in the region there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Celarevo
Čelarevo has a local soccer club with a player named Meleg.

I'll follow up on the other documents soon.

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 11/04/2017 9:39 pm
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The letter of property is in Serbian titled as Punomoć which basically gives the person the authority to sell in this case. Marija Scali, born as Marija Djuriš and Ana Djuriš authorize their uncle Jovan Djuriš, from Gložan (Partizanska road 4, Gložan) to sell the property listed. The letter was written in Serbian and notarized in the US, but that would allow their uncle to sell for them the property in Serbia. The house still exists and you can see it here: https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Partizanska,+Glozan,+Serbia/ @45.2770793,19.5656947,391m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m15!1m9!4m8!1m0!1m6!1m2!1s0x475b7209db7487d5:0x97b8a178ec8ad394!2sPartizanska,+Glozan,+Serbia!2m2!1d19.5661229!2d45.277298!3m4!1s0x475b7209db7487d5:0x97b8a178ec8ad394!8m2!3d45.277298!4d19.5661229?hl=en
Alas there is no Google Streetview there yet.

The pictures that you attached here are also in Slovak/Serbian mix. But from what I can read it refers to Struharnik. Now in Gložan today there are still 2 Struharik's living:

STRUHARIK ANA
JOŽEFA MARČOKA 47, 21412 Gložan, (Bački Petrovac)
Telefon: 021/788-186

&

STRUHARIKOVA MILINA
MARŠALA TITA 84, 21412 Gložan, (Bački Petrovac)
Telefon: 021/788-259

So the other documents in the last email are her travel documents. A one way ticket, excepts that collaborate her excerpt from the municipality, how she travelled etc.
The excerpt from the municipality is indeed signed in 1973 but as you can see it mentions Čelarevo which makes it easy for you to know where to look. All the other documents about her parents and so on will be stored at that municipality and the local churches there. The only problem will be to get them, so you can use the Letter to the Archives template in the right hand menu and give that a try first. You can add the copy of the excerpt of the municipality with that letter.

The letters that you send are not really in Serbian. Firstly the grammar is a bit of and there are no dots and comma's. Its Slovak from what I can tell with a mix of Serbian. The best way to get those translated is from someone in that region. But, the letter was send from the town of Gložan : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glo%C5%BEan
Now Gložan has only like 5 streets, you can see it here on Google Maps: https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Glo%C5%BEan,+Serbia/ @45.2762863,19.5679171,15.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x475b6df6e87e5371:0xc628a7bf73c684fb!8m2!3d45.2821109!4d19.5712204?hl=en

There is only 1 person in that town with the surname Meleg, her info as follow:

MELEG MARIJA
VELJKA VLAHOVIĆA 70, 21412 Gložan, (Bački Petrovac)
Telefon: 021/788-454

Another interesting thing for you. Both Gložan and Čelarevo are a walking distance separated from each other. And to make things even better, there is a Slovak Evangelist Church today still in Gložan that would hold all relevant documents! Its located at:

Slovačka evangelistička crkva
Maršala Tita, Glozan, Serbia

Some images:
http://nl.geoview.info/slovak_evangelical_church_tower_in_glozan,43953797p

You can reach the Rutherians in Serbia via: https://www.lutheranworld.org/content/slovak-evangelical-church-augsburg-confession-serbia

So, that is all for now I guess. I hope this helps you out a bit.

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 12/04/2017 2:34 pm
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Thank you so much! I apologize in the delayed response. I have been traveling for work. I am hoping to have time this weekend to work on all of the great resources you provided! I have one more question. My grandmother's Uncle Baci (John Struahrik's) daughter Mary Divak was still there. Any Divak's by chance in those two areas? I think that would help with many of the questions of tying the Struhariks that immigrated that I see in my documentation and don't know how they are all connected. Hopefully I can find a Djuris still in the area, too, when I find someone to translate the letters!

Your help and insight is wonderful. Thank you!

 
Posted : 25/04/2017 12:31 pm
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I'll let you know. I'll check what we have here on this end.

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 07/05/2017 8:02 am
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No Divak's in the phonebook, downbelow are all the ĐURIŠ in that municipality. Now there might still be some others that are not in the phonebook...

ĐURIŠ IGOR
HVJEZDOSLAVOVA 11, 21470 Bački Petrovac
(Bački Petrovac)
021/228-0199
ĐURIŠ JAN
LENJINOVA 28A, 21470 Bački Petrovac
(Bački Petrovac)
021/228-2824
ĐURIŠ JAN
VELJKA VLAHOVIĆA 59, 21412 Gložan
(Bački Petrovac)
021/788-579
ĐURIŠ JAN Detaljnije
VELJKA VLAHOVIĆA 15, 21412 Gložan
(Bački Petrovac)
021/788-074
ĐURIŠ SAMUEL Detaljnije
MIHAJLA PAGAČA 14, 21412 Gložan
(Bački Petrovac)
021/788-564
ŠTAJFEROVA ĐURIŠKOVA MARIJA
LENJINOVA 44, 21412 Gložan
(Bački Petrovac)
021/788-498
ŠTAJFEROVA ĐURIŠOVA MARIJA
LENJINOVA 43, 21412 Gložan
(Bački Petrovac)
021/788-162

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STRUHARIK ANA
JOŽEFA MARČOKA 47, 21412 Gložan
(Bački Petrovac)
021/788-186
STRUHARIK JAN
OKTOBARSKE REVOLUCIJE 7A, 21470 Bački Petrovac
(Bački Petrovac)
021/782-791
STRUHARIK JAROSLAV
MARŠALA TITA 138, 21472 Kulpin
(Bački Petrovac)
021/228-3043
STRUHARIK KAROL
PRVOMAJSKA 2, 21470 Bački Petrovac
(Bački Petrovac)
021/780-068
STRUHARIK MIHAL
MARŠALA TITA 138A, 21472 Kulpin
(Bački Petrovac)
021/228-6301
STRUHARIK MILOSLAV
PRVOMAJSKA 2, 21470 Bački Petrovac
(Bački Petrovac)
064/235-8776
STRUHARIKOVA MILINA
MARŠALA TITA 84, 21412 Gložan
(Bački Petrovac)
021/788

Regards,
Sergej

 
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