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(@flahm89)
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Good day to all,

My name is Federico Lahm, I'm from Argentina, and I am trying to gather infomation about my great-grandparent's birth. During my research, I found your website and thought that you might help me on contacting the right people.

My great-grandfather's name was Heinrich Lahm, he was born in 01.10.1905 on Crvenka.

My great-grandmother's name was Margarita Engel (first name is in Spanish, I guess it could be Margareta or Margaretha) and she was born between 1908 and 1910 in old Nagybecskerek (nowadays Zrenjanin). I am looking for records everywhere but cannot find any.

Who can I contact to ask for their birth certificates or to give me further information about genealogy on Serbia? Are there any births or baptisms records on Serbia that include that timeframe where my great-grandmother was born? I couldn't find anything on Family Search.

Thanks in advance for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards.

Federico Lahm

 
Posted : 10/12/2013 4:03 pm
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I have access to records for Roman Catholics from Crvenka so I will look up that for you later - you did not mention what the religion of your ancestors was and it needs to be confirmed so that I can help you more.

If your ancestors were Roman catholic then you can subscribe to the Kalocsa diocese e-archive and research that branch online all the way to the beginning of XIX century in original vital records. You can read more on that e-archive on these links:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES/2013-05/1367409114

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/vojvodina/kalocsa-roman-catholic-archdiocese-e-archive

If your ancestors were ethnic Germans ( Donauschwaben) I suggest you join DVHH website

http://www.dvhh.org/

and mailing list :

http://www.dvhh.org/community/mail-list.htm

because you will find a lot of resources through them and they can look up information on the ENGEL family from Zrenjanin for you.

Also look if any of your ancestors were employers of the cadets of Serbian Trade Association "Privrednik".

Here are results from their online databes for two empoyers ( *Poslodavac* column) LAHM ADAM in year 1928. and LAHM DANIEL in 1930., both shoemakers.

http://baza.privrednik.net/privrednik.php?find=Lahm&field=poslodavac&searching=yes&search=Pretraga&t=0

Different name of shopowners in same family usually suggests there was a change of ownership ( old owner retired from business or passed away).

Here are results for ENGEL surname:

http://baza.privrednik.net/privrednik.php?find=Engel&field=poslodavac&searching=yes&search=Pretraga&t=0

Only one in Kanjiža, identified as ethnic Hungarian, and no results for Zrenjanin.

 
Posted : 10/12/2013 4:37 pm
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No records for LAHM family in Crvenka Roman Catholic records.

ENGEL family from Zrenjanin as well as ENGEL family from Kanjiža and several other towns in same region in public records is listed as being of Jewish religion.

Engel Lipót, merchant from Kanjiža found in Privrednik database was killed in Auschwitz in 1944.

Members of ENGEL family from Zrenjanin are listed in official census of Victims of War 1941-1945 to have perished in concentration camps too.

I hope this helps with your research, but unless you know or have a way to get hold of documents that can confirm the religion of these families before emigrating, I can only point you to try and obtain information from civil vital records which are stored in municipal offices in Serbia.

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/municipal-offices-serbia-civil-vital-records

 
Posted : 10/12/2013 11:12 pm
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