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Hi, I am researching the origins of the Surname "PANJKOVIC". I currently live in
Melbourne Australia. I have been able to gather information directly linking
myself, 5 generations back to PETAR PANJKOVIC (Born 1812). This is where the
trail goes cold. My grandfather DANE PANJKOVIC has lived in KRBAVICA all his
life. Our slava is Sveti Djordje.

I have found information in the 1712 "POPIS of Lika & Krbavica" where several
PANJKOVIC/PANKOVICH families have lived in KrbavicaBunic however I have not
been able to find any information in that 100 year gap or unable to know which
of those families I am related to.

The questions I have are:
1. Where can I get information from between 1712 and 1812?
2. Before Migrating to Lika, where did the Panjkovic family live or come from?

I would appreciate your opinion and help very much.

Regards,
Dragan Panjkovic

 
Posted : 20/02/2007 12:42 pm
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Hello Dragan,

To answer your questions. You should go to a Family History Library Center of the LDS church and request the microfilms of that region. Croatia unlike Serbia already microfilmed their archives so you are lucky. You can request a copy of these films and review them in those centers.

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Sergej

 
Posted : 20/02/2007 1:20 pm
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Thanks Sergej,

I have located an LDS centre near me that I will visit shortly.

I am trying to Identify what the ORIGINS of Panjkovic are. What region of Bosna/Hercergovina we are from. Also what the name PANJKOVIC actually means.

A distant Family Member has given me a copy an "Acta Personae" from the "archives of Araldis". This mentions the surname PANCOVIC with dates from 1200-1400 and it is in German text. Are you fimiliar with this book, and could this be the origins of Panjkovic?

Thanks again,
Dragan.

 
Posted : 21/02/2007 9:38 am
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Dragan,

The problem with surnames is that people with the same surname are not always related to each other. So could that surname be originated there, then the answer could be yes, but to determine if its the same family as yours instead of being a family with the same surname as yours you need to do research starting with yourself and working your way back.

However do keep these sources and see when you go back into time if there are references that match but try to stay objective and critical as possible.

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 21/02/2007 11:13 am
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Please send me a mail abouth you,because I'm one of the Panjkovic three.My grandfather is borm at Krbavica,Lika,Croatia.His name is Stevo,and he died 1986.My father name is Jovo and he died 1993.If you have any Info please send me a mail

 
Posted : 25/03/2007 9:03 am
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Several weeks ago I went to the LDS, and was impressed with the Genealogical services they offered. Besides ordering Microfilm, they also had free access to Ancestry.com and other websites (which is OK, if you are after relatives that emigrated to the USA). I ordered 2 sets of film, see below.

Title Matična knjiga, 1856-1858
Authors Pravoslavna crkva. Е½upa Korenica
Note Location Film
Roč‘eni, vjenčani, umrli 1856-1858 FHL INTL Film
1536634 Item 4

Title Matična knjiga, 1857-1858
Authors Pravoslavna crkva. Е½upa Bunić
Note Location Film
Roč‘eni, vjenčani, umrli 1857-1858 FHL INTL Film
1536628 Item 7

Only the Film for Korenica has arrived. After trolling through the film, I found it quite difficult to understand, as it was handwritten, in Cyrillic and some characters/words I have never seen before. However after a while I did het used to it. I have tried looking for a translation of the Matična knjiga template on the web, but I couldn't find anything that helped. Any suggestions?

In the end I could not find any Pajnkovic (in hindsight, I accidently ordered the Korenica film, instead of Krbavica..) I did find these following families prominant in the search which may be of interest to other people:
- Prica
- Knezevic

Hopefully when the Bunic Film arrives (and I will aslo order Film for Krbavica which I just located 1536631 item 14), I will have more luck.

Unfortunately there only seems to be Film in these orthodox churches for 1856-1858. If the people you are looking for were not born, married or died in that time, then you wont be able to find them via the LDS microfilm. Are there any other avenues of finding these records during the 1700's and 1800's in the Krbavica/Bunic region??

Dragan.

 
Posted : 08/05/2007 3:18 pm
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Dragan,

Matična knjiga means Birth Registry. The only way to read through is it to learn to read Cyrillic.

As for the years. That what you can find in the LDS Library is all there is. Ther rest has been destroyed during the wars :-(
The only way you can find more info is with the Catholic Churches, sometimes Serbs were baptised and registered there in absence of an ORthodox Church.

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 08/05/2007 3:28 pm
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Hi,

Can anyone help me understand/translate this. It is a death certificate from 1858. I believe the surname says Panjkovic (I can't make out the first name), however all the text does not look like modern cirilic text. I am trying to find out things like Age, Gender and anything else that is useful. My parents don't even understand it and they speak fluent Serbian.

Da li neko moze da pomaze prevoditi ovo, I sta ovo znaci?? Trazim prezime PANJKOVIC. Izgelda kao de je stara tekst.

 
Posted : 04/07/2007 2:32 pm
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Hi Dragan,

It says Elena Panjkovich (written in old style cirilic). It's a record from a death register. She died on 1st May 1858, buried on May 3th. Place M. Krbava, church of St Prorok Ilija, female, age 2, orthodox. She was from a frontier soldiers family (granicari) in Hubsburg Monarchy, buried at local cemetery. The other data was for administrative purposes (can't understand them all) and of less importance.

Bogdan

 
Posted : 04/07/2007 6:39 pm
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I forgot to say that there are no records about parents.
Bogdan

 
Posted : 04/07/2007 6:46 pm
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Is it just this page? Usually there is more information.

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Sergej

 
Posted : 04/07/2007 10:38 pm
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I think there should be more, because on the right side of the paper (vertical text) it says "ЧиСло протоколa". It means the part of the document, so there must be at least one more.

Bogdan

 
Posted : 05/07/2007 5:48 am
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Yea my experience says the other side would have more info, potential witnesses etc.

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Sergej

 
Posted : 05/07/2007 9:11 am
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Thanks Bogdan/Sergej for your help.

Now that you have given me that info, I can now work-out a bit more and understand the words a bit better.

I wish there was another page with more info, however there are 4 "Death Certificates" on each page, each one is for a different person (the book looks to be printed with the same template on each page).

What I find interesting is the Regimenta/Kompanija information. It looks like the military was integral to their life.

I have attached a few samples of things I would really like to have more info on:

1. Does this mean Christened?
2 & 11 - Can you make out what the first names are?
3. I think means occupation, is this correct?
4,5,6,7,8,10,12,13,14 - I don't know what the headings mean or what the text writes
9 & 15. Does this specify which section of the army they were in??

Your help would be appreciated.

 
Posted : 05/07/2007 11:29 am
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Your family is origanlly German descend did you check with the catholic church as well? Do you happen to have color scans, it makes it easier to read the handwriting.

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 05/07/2007 1:36 pm
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