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Seidl (Saidl, Sajdl) family from Derventa, Bosanski Brod, Slavonski Brod

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Ok, let me see...
I recently started investigating origin of my last name, history of my family, and building my family tree. It is very complicated thing to do because I have no living relatives who could help me with some details, and those who can, won't.
So, my greatgrandmother was Ludmila Seidl. She was born in Vareš. near Boranski Brod in 1911. I got that information from her ID. Her father's name was Gašpar (Gaspar) Seidl, and mother's Rosina Baumann. I got that info from my grandfather's baptism chart. And, there was a story that they came from Germany to Poland and than to Bosnia/Croatia. That is all I knew when I started.
What could I do? I started interviewing every single person in my family I could. I found one distant relative who knew something and had information on Baumann family. Internet helped a lot. So, now I have data all the way to the middle of XIX century. Last person I have information on is Franz Baumann, born in Mariahilf, Galicia (now Ukraine) in 1844. When his family came to Mariahilf is still unknown to me, and, again, there is a story that they came there from Egerland (Germany). There is one website which can be useful to me and anyone interested in Galicia ( http://www.galiziengermandescendants.org). There you can buy some *.pdf files with the information about places and families from that places for 5$ per piece. I didn't order it yet, but I will soon. I hope it will help.
What about Seidl part of the family? Well, almost nothing. I discovered that my greatgrandmother Ludmila wasn't married to my greatgrandfather (Hubert Schumacher), and that he left her some land as alimentation. That document was made in Banja Luka in 1936. Can someone help me with the advice, how and where to find and get that document? On the internet site led by Eugen Perau, which contains info on German colonies, I found a descendant of Schumacher family. He provided me with information on Schumacher family back to 1696. Internet was very useful again. I also discovered that my greatgrandmother had several siblings. Brothers Ignaz (who lived and died in Indjija), Josef (who may have been an SS officier) and sisters Maria and Katharina. All of them went back to Germany before WWII. Then I found a letter from 1973 which was written by Maria, and which contained information that Katharina died. I also found some old pictures of some people that no one knows, exept my dead greatgrandmother. Then, I found out new address of that Maria, using her old address, and 2 internet sites. Today I sent a letter to her living son. I hope he can help me. I also used white pages, and got a list of all people with the same last name in wanted region (Backa, Slavonia, Bosnia). I will try to contact them, but not all, of course. I will make a selection. I will certainly contact ones in Indjija.
I exploited internet's maximum (I think) considering my last name in this region, found a lot of interesting sites (news paper articles, data bases, history related sites etc), but not one relevant info on my family. Family search does not help at all.
Next stop are the archives and books on german colonisation and history of that colonies (so, Matica Srpska). But I need some help with that. I never used one, I never contacted one. And those that I need, are far from me.
So, what I need help with is contacting the archives and good advice is always welcome. Also, if someone knows anything about Seidl (variations: Saidl, Sajdl and Seidel) last name in Vojvodina, Bosnia and Croatia, please let me know.
Thank you all,
Aleksandar

 
Posted : 25/03/2008 5:54 pm
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Aleksandar,

Dont get you hope up high on the arhives in Bosnia, or Serbian Orthodox Churches in Croatia. We have many members that hit a brick wall in thei research mainly because the last war destroyed a lot of material. Donauschwaben, your ancestry is a specific case. Most Protestand churches microfilmed their archives and should be accessible through the LDS Family History Library Centers. The Tito regime wasn't kind on the German populations so do be patient because it will take a considerable amount of time to get your hands on anything. One thing I would advice is too try to assertain that part of the family that left for Germany to get in contact with them.

You can try to reach the central archives in Sarajevo and see where they direct you. Also try to contact city hall in the respective cities to see what they have. In the end it depends on the goodwill of people working there and we get different reports on this.

We are still in the process as a society to create a network for archives, but it wouldnt amaze you if I say that it moves forward slowly ;-) If you have info in German that needs to be translated let me know, I am fluent in German so I can help out. I dont know if you want to put your family tree online?

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 27/03/2008 6:19 pm
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Well, I am trying to contact some members of my family that went back to Germany. Thing is that "we" lost contact with "them" when my greatgrandmother died 20-30 years ago so I don't have any idea where they are now. I found one address so I sent a letter as I said before.
I don't need the archive of Serbian Orthodox Church in Croatia. I need an archive of Catholic or Protestant Church in Slavonia (Osijek or Zagreb) and in Bosnia (I think it is in Sarajevo). How to contact them and what to expect? There is one web site arhinet.arhiv.hr (Croatian archives online) which could be helpful but I can not register. Can you look at it?
How does the LDS work here? Where to go?
If I need help with german, I will contact you. I can understand a lot, but not all.
I don't wont to put my tree online yet. I need to fill it with some information.
Thank you very much.

 
Posted : 27/03/2008 8:50 pm
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It shoudnt be hard. In Germany the Civil files are digital so its easy to locate people. You could try with the embassy as well, theyihave more legal resources as Germany knows tight privacy laws. You can contact the Croatian archives, however if they dont want to cooperate for whatever reason, the LDS church did microfilm all the archives for them and they have records as well. I do not know if the LDS church has a Family HIstory Library Center, but you could check as they have a building in Belgrade close to the US embassy at Milosa Pocerca. Its like almost on the corner and you can see it from the US embassy and vice versa.

http://www.arhiv.hr/hr/hda/fs-ovi/kinoteka.htm

Address Congregation Sacrament Service First Meeting
Milosa Pocerca 26
BEOGRAD, 11000
Beograd 11000 Beograd Branch 10:00 a.m. 10:00 a.m.

You could choose to already put parts of your pedigree online and let it be spidered by Google, who knows someone from Germany is looking as well. Check the Phonebook at Telekom to see if you can find the number of the LDS church, if not I can ask around and get it ;-)

Regards,
Sergej

 
Posted : 30/03/2008 9:40 pm
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