I forgot to add that this was in the birth records dated from 1849-1904.

Hi Melanie,

Sorry, I cannot be any help to you.  I was wondering where you found the Serbian Orthodox birth records on FamilySearch.org.  I looked but could not locate them.

Thanks,

Jordan

Hi JT,

When I first launch the www.familysearch.org website, I log in.  On that very first page, I scroll to the bottom under the All Record Collections and select Continental Europe then Croatia.  Next I click on the Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1949 link.  My next step is to click on the Browse through 1,421, 560 images link.  The next link is Orthodox (Pravoslavna crkva) then Biskupija.  The last link is Births(Rodeni) 1848-1904.

According to my note above, it looks like within Biskupija I went to page 390, the first entry on line 21.  Does that help?  I appreciate your help with this as it makes me tired to look at these and translate what I see.  I'm getting better though. 

Melanie

I meant 1849-1904.  I incorrectly type the date link.

We opened the Rodoslov system where you can post your family tree. This will make it easier to share and collaborate online.

I am frustrated at not finding information when others seem to say they can.  I do not want to pay people that say they can find these things as I should be able to do it myself.  I find myself going in circles.

Vaso Popovich was in the U.S. between 1919 and 1927.  I don't find evidence of naturalization so I doubt he had a U.S. passport.  I would like to find a copy of his Yugoslavian passport as I believe he would have had to have one in order to come to the U.S. correct?

I was also searching aimlessly as I don't know what else to look for when I found a site that noted the name Popovich showed up in the Parish of Vivodina.  So, I know I need to know his religion which I do not.  I should know the Slava (if he was Orthodox) but I do not.  I know a partial name, date of birth, when he was in the U.S. and that he came from then Yugoslavia.  I can't find any ship manifests, census reports, city directories, naturalization records, employement records, passport information, news articles, death records or military records.

I know I've found some Vasos that were noted worthy to be searched on and even some that had a first name that started with a B but no one has gotten back to me from this site.  Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate any help that can be given but I don't know where else to turn.  I was referred to a person through the LDS Family Search site but she charges and I can't afford to pay anything right now.  I know there is a host of information out there if you only know how to find it.  I don't know how to keep myself organized or how to find another lead when all seems to be a dead end.  Can someone PLEASE help me?  At least point me in the right direction?  I have added what little I can on the Rodoslov system but it's nothing more than what I've posted on here already.  I tried to keep it simple as I'm not sure what should go in the biography at this point.  I'm interested in following up on the Vivodina parish but I don't know where to do.  Ancestry.com and Familysearch.org seem to show either too much information that is irrelevant or nothing at all.  Thank you to anyone that can help.

Melanie White

There is a record for Vaso Popovic in the New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 database on Ancestry.com.  I can't look at the details because I don't have a paid membership.  They have a 14-day free trial, but I already used mine.

Hi Jordan,

I thankfully have a paid subscription to Ancestry and have run this search again.  I only used his name and sex as male for search criteria.  There are several Vasos that I've found but some are too far off in the birth year to be considered.

The first one I see is from Biskupija, born in 1896 and arrived in the U.S. in 1913.  He is a possibility and I've even been contacted by a descendant of this person named Linda.  There are a lot of similarities but some differences that might be hard to explain.  Linda said she thought her Vaso was illiterate when they came over here - they being Vaso, his brother Yanko, a man named Petar and another named Marko.  Due to ages, Marko is more likely a father but Petar is listed first in the manifest and is in his sixties.  My Vaso was definitely not illiterate as he wrote several letters and cards to my Great Grandmother.  I have also received a picture of this Vaso who doesn't look anything like the pictures I have of him.  I will try sending them another way as I don't believe I can attach anything here.  Maybe in the Rodoslov system? 

Other than the Vaso from Biskupija, I found:

Vaso Popovich, birth about 1891 (Yugoslav), departure Raguse, arrival in United States: March 14, 1920 in New York.  His birth location was Rijeka.  He was a single male coming from the army and his final destination was Anaconda Montana.

Vaso Popovic, birth about 1892 in Busna (maybe Bosna - can't read the race or people), departure Zagink in 1923.  Arrival in Canada 1923.  His intention was to stay in Canada but who knows if that actually happened?

I also found a Canadian Passenger list that I forgot that I saved for a Blaz Popovic.  He arrived in 1924 and also intended to stay in Canada.  It looks like he came from Domagovic and his religion was Catholic.  His destination was Winnipeg Manitoba Canada which is not far from the iron mines my Vaso worked in considering how far he came already.

I will try sending these documents for review but not sure I can do it through this site.  I don't want to clutter what I've created in the Rodoslov system as I can't confirm that any of these documents will belong there.  Thank you Jordan for your help.

Melanie

JTBates

Did you find the birth record I was referring to in one of the previous posts?  It was on page 390 in the Biskupija Orthodox records.  I'm wondering what you think about the child's name and whether he could be anything I might want to look at further.  Thank you for your help.

Melanie

I looked at the records you asked about and these are copies of church vital records made by Serbian Orthodox Church priests for the civil authorities.

So whenever dealing with original SOC vital records, or copies made by its priests, the dates are according to the calendar it uses still - Julian, so a person who is in them listed as born on August 16th is according to western calendar born on August 29th ( the difference is that the calendar SOC uses is 13 days late, so we celebrate Serbian New Years Eve on January 13th when the old calendar says it is December 31st).

In later records from XX century you will find two dates written as birth date - one in old calendar and in new calendar. The new calendar date is usually written in brackets.

In this particular record and all receords from XIX century, two dates are:

-first one date of birth

-second one date of baptism

and both in old calendar only, so always add + 13 days.

The name of the child in that record  you found is JOVAN POPOVIĆ ( Јован Поповић).

I am attaching a help for interpreting the records like this one based on the one you asked about: